OK ----------> LOLICON! [Transcript]

(Playing ♫ Fett's Vette ♫ by MC Chris)

Megan: You'd be surprised by how many people, like just on campus, actually like tentacle sex. It's gross!

Adaeze: Who the hell likes tentacle sex?

DeLue: Actually, you shouldn't put that in the movie.

Megan: (laughs) Don't put that in the movie!


KATSUCON 2009 (Anime Convention)
Crystal City, VA
Megan: Yaoi is explicit man-on-man action. It doesn't always have to be a man; it could be a boy... sadly. But there is definite sex: sex is shown, you can see it, it happens. Shonen-ai is cute. Shonen-ai literally translates to "boy love." It's really cute, usually between two high schoolers. It shows the progression of the relationship, and at the end, you know they "get together," but sex doesn't happen. Shojo-ai is the exact same as shonen-ai, but shojo means "girl," so it's "girl love." It's cute, it shows the progression of the relationship, they kiss, that happens. In yuri, lesbian sex happens.

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Megan: They have a picture of a little girl, as she gets older, and they have a line (getsture) that says OK and then it's--

DeLue: NOT Okay--

Megan: --Lolicon!-- Which they didn't say was not okay!

DeLue & Megan: (Laughter) OK... Lolicon.

DeLue: Not making any value judgments here!

Adaeze: Just be aware, do not read that because I made the mistake. I was like, "Oh yaoi!" NO! I got shotacon and I was scarred for life!

Megan: I do believe it's actually illegal here in the States.

Adaeze: Yeah, so if you have it, then you might go to jail. And WHY DO YOU HAVE IT?

DeLue & Adaeze: WHY??

Megan: SHAME ON YOU!

DeLue: YOU'RE A BAD PERSON!! (laughter) ...I'm not supposed to refer to the camera, am I?

TIME LAPSE TRANSITION

Megan: Futanari, like I said, breaks it down to "dickgirl." It's usually a woman who--I'm not gonna say that they all do--has extremely large breasts, a vagina, no testicles, and a huge penis--

DeLue: (gestures) MASSIVE PENIS!

Megan: --where the clitoris is supposed to be. So, th-th-that...

DeLue: That's what you've got. (laughter)

Megan: That's what it is.

DeLue: It is what it is.

Megan: Of course, y'know, they'll have the ones with whom you can't really tell; they'll have a flat chest but they'll still have the peni and the vagina and it's not cool.

Adaeze & DeLue: (mockingly) Peni?

DeLue: It's a penis!

Megan: Shut up!

DeLue: Finish the word, you're missing one letter on the end!

Megan: Peni!

DeLue: SSS!!

TIME LAPSE TRANSITION

Megan: Ahh, furs!

DeLue: She's the furry girl.

Megan: I love furs. A "furry" is a person who usually--I don't want to say atunes himself or sees himself as an animal.

DeLue: They try to become like an animal.

Megan: Yeah. And there are people who take it to an extreme. There are people who do that in every category, and then there are the people who know when to turn it on and off, so... don't get that twisted.

TIME LAPSE TRANSITION

DeLue: That's all that the anime is: a projection of fantasy. And it's been happening forever. Back in the '80s, the feminists said, Look at Barbie. If she were real, Barbie would have to be 6'6" with size 5 feet in 8-inch heels and double-D breasts. They did this projection of what Barbie would look like if she were a real person's size and it was ridiculous! There's been a projection of fantasies forever, and anime is just the most recent and most prolific of these projections.

Adaeze: There are a lot of weird things in anime.

James: And luckily, anime seems all-inclusive with things.

DeLue: It is very inclusive with things. It's very accepting too. If you're into tentacle rape, we will make an anime for you! (applause) We're not going to judge you, we're not going to say "You're a bad person," even though you are! We're just going to make a tentacle rape movie for you and you can buy it.


Adaeze: --Tentacle sex, WOOOO!! (gestures)

DeLue: So you'll get your tentacle sex even though tentacles don't rape people in real life, we'll get your money, and everybody's happy! And that's how anime works. With anime, we will play upon your fantasies, give you something you desire, and get from you something we desire, money.

Rebecca: Which is why a lot of people hate people that get into anime!

DeLue: Why?

Rebecca: Y'know, my sister got into the anime, went to Otakon and everything. Our entire family was hoping that she would "get out of the phase"--

Megan: Oh my god, my mom did too--

Rebecca: --And then she did.

(LAUGHTER)

Megan: (gestures) Here's my self esteem at the beginning of that conversation, and (gestures) here's my self-esteem at the end of that conversation.

THE FEMINIZATION OF MEN IN JAPANESE ANIME/MANGA: Jet's A Big, Burly Man Type of Man! (Anime Panel) [DELETED SCENE]

Adaeze: So I picked up a manga (Japanese comic book) and I was just looking through thinking, "Wait. There's sex."

DeLue: And it's being sold in a convenience store! (laughter)

Adaeze: And there are random things happening, so I'm in the middle of the convenience store reading, then my 12-year-old host brother came over, so I was like, "Shit! (puts the magazine away) Hi, how are you?"

DeLue: In regards to the feminization of men, for the most part, that's only in hentai ("straight and gay porn") and yaoi ("boy sex"). In regular anime, you have a representation of men as very masculine, and also a representation of men who are far more feminine. And that's just representing the diversity of people. But y'know, you have people like Jet, who's like this big burly man kind of man... and then you have people like Spike, who are very much not big burly man kind of men. You know what I mean? But when you get into yaoi and hentai, you get much less of the big burly man type of man and more of the much not burly man type of man. Sorry for my... BIG BURLY MAN TYPE OF MAN!

Adaeze: DeLue's going crazy.

Lyndsey: So, DeLue, what type of man are you?

DeLue: I'm a BIG BURLY MAN TYPE OF MAN! (laughter) NOT A NOT BIG BURLY MAN TYPE OF MAN!

Adaeze: You wanna say it one more time?

Megan: I saw you. You were thinking about it.

Adaeze: We should just take a picture of you. (gesture)

DeLue: When you bring this up, you've gotta be like, this person's into hentai, this person's into anime, and this person's into BIG BURLY TYPE OF MAN! (flails) HE'S A MAN TYPE OF MAN BURLY TYPE OF BIRD BIG BIRD--

Megan: Just stop.

Adaeze: Yeah. (laughter)

Lyndsey: You almost said "bird."

DeLue: BIG BIRDY MAN TYPE OF MAN!

Adaeze: REALLY??!

IT WAS THE GREATEST COMIC BOOK EVER: It Had Crossdressing and Same-Sex Marriage (Adaeze)

I started out with Japanese manga and anime when I was in 5th grade, I watched Sailor Moon on Cartoon Network. I did not know it was called anime or was Japanese at the time. All I knew was that it was better than the other cartoons on TV. I moved on to watch Yu Yu Hakyusho, Dragon Ball, and Dragon Ball Z on the same channel and watched them uncensored on Adult Swim.

I read my first graphic novel which I thought was the greatest thing ever and read it several times. I still have it and I noticed it had some gay undertones with male crossdressing and male-male marriage. I read my first offical manga in high school, freshmen year. It was called Fake and was a yaoi which is really funny now that I think about it. My first straight anime was Fruits Basket. Manga and Anime really influenced my love for Japan and Japanese culture. It was a major reason why I took Japanese in high school instead of Spanish or French.

I did not find out about yuri until one of my friends told me about it. This was at the time I was struggling with my sexuality and reading yuri, in a way, helped me come to a realization that I'm bisexual. Though I prefer yuri over yaoi because yuri most of the time is drawn to please straight men's fantasy of two women together. There are a few yuri that I have read that actually has a good plotline and goes in-
depth with the relationship instead of straight sex. I prefer shojo-ai ("girl love") instead of yuri ("girl sex") because of that reason but I have read a yuri with a well written plot.

Yaoi and shonen-ai are better written and have developing relationships and multiple situations, it's still written for women because some of the sex scenes are unrealistic, like virgins being penetrated without preparation and saying it felt good when in reality, it hurts like hell.

Overall I love anime and manga because it goes beyond what comics and cartoons offer here. There is even manga about inter-sexed people and lovers with disabilities (they are so cute!). Bascially, there is a genre of manga and anime for everyone but never read shoutacon or lolicon because it has pedophilic content *shudders*