Megan: You'd be surprised by how many people, like just on campus, actually like tentacle sex. It's gross!
Adaeze: Who the hell likes tentacle sex?
DeLue: Actually, you shouldn't put that in the movie.
Megan: (laughs) Don't put that in the movie!
KATSUCON 2009 (Anime Convention)
Crystal City, VA
Megan: Yaoi is explicit man-on-man action. It doesn't always have to be a man; it could be a boy... sadly. But there is definite sex: sex is shown, you can see it, it happens. Shonen-ai is cute. Shonen-ai literally translates to "boy love." It's really cute, usually between two high schoolers. It shows the progression of the relationship, and at the end, you know they "get together," but sex doesn't happen. Shojo-ai is the exact same as shonen-ai, but shojo means "girl," so it's "girl love." It's cute, it shows the progression of the relationship, they kiss, that happens. In yuri, lesbian sex happens.
80 MINUTES LATER
Megan: They have a picture of a little girl, as she gets older, and they have a line (getsture) that says OK and then it's--
DeLue: NOT Okay--
Megan: --Lolicon!-- Which they didn't say was not okay!
DeLue & Megan: (Laughter) OK... Lolicon.
DeLue: Not making any value judgments here!
Adaeze: Just be aware, do not read that because I made the mistake. I was like, "Oh yaoi!" NO! I got shotacon and I was scarred for life!
Megan: I do believe it's actually illegal here in the States.
Adaeze: Yeah, so if you have it, then you might go to jail. And WHY DO YOU HAVE IT?
DeLue & Adaeze: WHY??
Megan: SHAME ON YOU!
DeLue: YOU'RE A BAD PERSON!! (laughter) ...I'm not supposed to refer to the camera, am I?
TIME LAPSE TRANSITION
Megan: Futanari, like I said, breaks it down to "dickgirl." It's usually a woman who--I'm not gonna say that they all do--has extremely large breasts, a vagina, no testicles, and a huge penis--
DeLue: (gestures) MASSIVE PENIS!
Megan: --where the clitoris is supposed to be. So, th-th-that...
DeLue: That's what you've got. (laughter)
Megan: That's what it is.
DeLue: It is what it is.
Megan: Of course, y'know, they'll have the ones with whom you can't really tell; they'll have a flat chest but they'll still have the peni and the vagina and it's not cool.
Adaeze & DeLue: (mockingly) Peni?
DeLue: It's a penis!
Megan: Shut up!
DeLue: Finish the word, you're missing one letter on the end!
Megan: Peni!
DeLue: SSS!!
TIME LAPSE TRANSITION
Megan: Ahh, furs!
DeLue: She's the furry girl.
Megan: I love furs. A "furry" is a person who usually--I don't want to say atunes himself or sees himself as an animal.
DeLue: They try to become like an animal.
Megan: Yeah. And there are people who take it to an extreme. There are people who do that in every category, and then there are the people who know when to turn it on and off, so... don't get that twisted.
TIME LAPSE TRANSITION
DeLue: That's all that the anime is: a projection of fantasy. And it's been happening forever. Back in the '80s, the feminists said, Look at Barbie. If she were real, Barbie would have to be 6'6" with size 5 feet in 8-inch heels and double-D breasts. They did this projection of what Barbie would look like if she were a real person's size and it was ridiculous! There's been a projection of fantasies forever, and anime is just the most recent and most prolific of these projections.
Adaeze: There are a lot of weird things in anime.
James: And luckily, anime seems all-inclusive with things.
DeLue: It is very inclusive with things. It's very accepting too. If you're into tentacle rape, we will make an anime for you! (applause) We're not going to judge you, we're not going to say "You're a bad person," even though you are! We're just going to make a tentacle rape movie for you and you can buy it.
Adaeze: --Tentacle sex, WOOOO!! (gestures)
DeLue: So you'll get your tentacle sex even though tentacles don't rape people in real life, we'll get your money, and everybody's happy! And that's how anime works. With anime, we will play upon your fantasies, give you something you desire, and get from you something we desire, money.
Rebecca: Which is why a lot of people hate people that get into anime!
DeLue: Why?
Rebecca: Y'know, my sister got into the anime, went to Otakon and everything. Our entire family was hoping that she would "get out of the phase"--
Megan: Oh my god, my mom did too--
Rebecca: --And then she did.
(LAUGHTER)
Megan: (gestures) Here's my self esteem at the beginning of that conversation, and (gestures) here's my self-esteem at the end of that conversation.
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